Wednesday, 7 August 2013
Blog Entry #4
Mood:
happy
Now Playing: Grammatical Musings
Topic: Teaching English
What is your experience with "grammar"? Does it strike fear into the very fibre of your being, or do you secretly delight in knowing the right ways to conjugate verbs, use the ellipsis, and avoid dangling modifiers? From whence does your opinion about grammar originate? Where does grammar fit in to the English classroom, or does it!? Explain... (Response due by 8/13 @ 11:59 PM)
Wednesday, 7 August 2013 - 5:56 PM EDT
Name:
"Heather Smith"
While I pride myself on speaking and writing 'well' (i.e. the Queen's English, so to speak), determining how and when to teach grammar in an English classroom is a very difficult question. One doesn't want to discourage any local or cultural dialects the students might have, since this could be taken as dismissive of that entire culture. Expressing oneself in standard English, however, is a trait that many colleges and future employers look for in their applicants, a fact that makes teachers desperately want to teach grammar. Case in point: last night I corrected the grammar of the contestants, choreographers, and judges on "So You Think You Can Dance" several times. Another problem I and my contemporaries could encounter is that, speaking from my personal experience, grammar was never explicitly taught to us during our school days. In spite of this paucity of formal instruction, I learned what was 'right' by speaking and listening to my parents, good-quality television and radio shows, reading extensively, learning a foreign language, and the occasional notes left by my teachers in the margins of my essays. Thus, I often know what's 'right', but I can't explain why to my students, which is utterly useless to them and makes me very apprehensive about attempting to teach grammar outright. Thus, although as English majors we are desperate to have our students learn to express themselves in perfect conventional English, it is often a daunting prospect. Not only does one have to balance the concerns expressed above, but one also has to consider the amount of time one has to cover the material in the year's curriculum and how one can make learning grammar 'fun' for students (a difficult task). It is a question with no easy answer, but hopefully the best English teachers will find a happy medium that will work for their classes.
Monday, 12 August 2013 - 10:52 AM EDT
Name:
"Casey Smith "
In my experience with grammar, I have a good sense of what is “correct” based on what looks right, but I struggle with the actual definitions of grammatical terminology. That is one of my biggest insecurities about becoming an English teacher because I am worried that I will blank and forget the definition of a participle or an infinitive. I may know how to use the proper mechanics of writing (mostly), but I have a hard time articulating what I have done. One of my favorite things about the paper writing process is editing and proofreading. I love checking for a consistent verb tense and ensuring that I put the punctuation on the correct side of quotation marks. But I haven’t done a sentence diagramming activity since I was probably in middle school. I don’t even know if educators still teach that skill. My experience with grammar originates from middle school language arts classes. I also think that learning a foreign language helps with understanding grammar because if we cannot conjugate verbs in English, then it will be much more difficult to learn that skill in another language. When I need to use a reference, I frequently turn to the Purdue OWL. For definitions on terminology, I use “The Bedford Glossary of Critical and Literary Terms” (Murphin and Ray). As a general reference, I use “The Little, Brown Essential Handbook: Second Custom Edition for New York University” (Jane E. Aaron). It is important to teach grammar in the English classroom, but I think that it is more useful to know how to apply the skills than it is to simply define them. I don’t think we can expect our students to become strong writers if we don’t teach grammar. Even though I’m sure both students and teachers alike would rather not take class time to go over grammar, it is still important. In addition to learning grammar to become stronger writers, students need to understand standard grammatical forms in order to see how it can be manipulated with creative writing.
Monday, 12 August 2013 - 1:56 PM EDT
Name:
"Brian Parchmann"
My relationship with grammar is a tumultuous one. I enjoy basic standards that are often forgotten by many when speaking, but recognized in writing (sometimes). However, punctuation often scares and confuses me when writing. Although I appreciate the art of striving for what’s known as being “grammatically correct,” I’m left with mixed emotions as sentences become more complex and I’m left wondering how anyone can be comfortable with punctuation. Grammar was always treated as a separate entity of sorts when taught in the classroom. Up until high school, when grammar became a “correct these circled mistakes in your revision” type of lesson, grammar was considered language arts, while reading was considered English. Grammar lessons were relatively boring as a story was generally ignored. Mechanics, in the end, have come to be a sarcastic “I’m smarter than you” joke when talking with friends and a stereotype that if a friend doesn’t know something, I will. Grammar is a necessary skill and should be taught at the elementary and early secondary level, but should not go much further from there. Once students display a grasp of grammar that is sufficient enough to communicate (in all forms) effectively the focus should remain on maintaining that understanding.
Tuesday, 13 August 2013 - 1:54 PM EDT
Name:
"Cassi Danay"
It is not a secret that I delight in knowing the right ways to conjugate verbs, use the ellipsis, and avoid dangling modifiers. I openly correct the grammatical mistakes my family and friends make in everyday conversation because it makes me happy to know what is right and what is wrong, not because I like to drive them insane. I do not delight, however, in having to explain the definitions of grammatical terms. If a student asks me to explain a participle phrase or why it is important to know what a gerund is then fear will most likely strike every fiber of my being. I took a grammar course during my undergrad and I received an “A”. That means I know everything about grammar, right? Wrong. During the course I knew everything about grammar. Once the course was over I forgot most of it. I don’t know if the reason is because the teacher was not effective or if the information is simply not necessary to memorize. Perhaps it is a bit of both. I have an idea of what perfect grammar looks and sounds like and I know where to go to look up questions as they arise and I appreciate language more than say a math major. I think that is sufficient enough to qualify myself as a future English teacher. Or is it? This blog prompt is striking fear into my fibers..
I’m not exactly sure when my opinion about grammar originated. I have always had an interest in words and word play as well as in noticing correct and incorrect ways to state sentences.
Grammar fits into the English classroom when the teacher is modeling correct speech, when the students are speaking, and when the teacher and/or the students are writing. These are places where grammar can and should fit into the classroom of any content area though. While it may not be completely necessary to know all the rules and definitions of grammar, it is important to understand there is a right and a wrong way to use a language, particularly in an academic or professional setting, and to respect the complexities of a language.
Tuesday, 13 August 2013 - 2:34 PM EDT
Name:
"Peter Brooks"
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Tuesday, 13 August 2013 - 4:31 PM EDT
Name:
"Matthew Delaney"
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Tuesday, 13 August 2013 - 7:29 PM EDT
Name:
"Ryan Pirro"
According to the Common Core, grammar should be taught in every subject area; however, something tells me that English will be the only place where direct grammar instruction will take place. This isn’t such a bad thing because, for the most part, grammar is learned through osmosis anway—students will naturally pick up grammar conventions by reading and writing often. In his chapter on grammar, Burke says that students should “read read read” if they want to improve their grammar skills. Explicit and direct grammar instruction is simply not as effective as learning grammar through exposure to exemplars. Having said that, explicit grammar instruction becomes necessary when students are struggling with recurring grammatical errors in their own writing. In order to correct a recurring problem students and teachers must both have a deep understanding of content-specific vocabulary and grammatical conventions in order to identify, discuss, and fix the problem. For example, telling a student not to split infinitives will not have any effect on the student if he (or she) doesn’t know what an infinitive is. Conversely, telling that same student to write something the teacher’s way “just because” will be equally ineffective. Teachers must give students the vocabulary and understanding necessary to discuss the complexities of grammar and style conventions when they arise. Where does my opinion on grammar originate? I have almost no in-depth understanding of grammar, which scares me. Let me clarify—I lack the vocabulary to explain to students what I have taught myself about grammar by reading and writing. Right now I am the teacher that will tell you to do things my way “because that’s the way you do it”. Of course, this is something that I want to improve upon for the benefit of my students, but my main point here is that I did not receive any comprehensive grammar instruction in my own high school or higher education. I would like to make sure that my students leave high school with a better understanding of grammar conventions than I did. But that begs the question: if I got this far without specific grammar knowledge and understanding . . . is it that important to learn anyway?
Tuesday, 13 August 2013 - 8:15 PM EDT
Name:
"Sheena Gordon"
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Tuesday, 13 August 2013 - 9:51 PM EDT
Name:
"Marc Bilodeau"
Coming from a tri-lingual individual, grammar (in any language) scares me to death. I always try to sound as intelligent as humanly possible and one of my biggest fears is miscongugating or making up words. You caught me in class last week by making up a tense for the word "run". I think my opnion of grammas has always come from my love of language. In that regard, it is the same as someone's love of music or science; at times, mistakes are made but it does not lesson your attempts to understand the concept wholly. Grammar absolutely has a place in the classroom. It is important for students to understand the constructs of it in order to produce fluid responses. Grammar is crucial in any type of writing. It takes a mastery of it in order to break its conventions -- Cormac McCarthy is a flawless example of this with his complete disregard for sentence structure. Unfortunately, fragments and run-on sentences do not lend themselves very well to solid academic writing.
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